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Post by jetjackson on Dec 4, 2017 20:19:10 GMT -7
It's either wet cold or dry heat here.
I think I'll go with low profile plastic pallets - I can source them pretty easily through work.
Just got the word back from landowner, who doesn't want to let me drill into the existing structure - so it's back to the drawing board on design. TBH, it could be for the better, I was getting frustrated with trying to build the design around existing structure and worrying if it would hold the weight.
When the Australian housing market crashes, I'll be glad I didn't buy, and instead put up with these inconveniences. There is no reason a 1200 square foot house that's 20 minutes drive from a city should cost $1M USD, this is Melbourne, not New York. /endrant
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Post by tetrault on Dec 6, 2017 12:25:37 GMT -7
Jet, there are surely ways around this, but using the dimensions given, you may end up with a clearance issue using "standard" framing.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 6, 2017 13:52:48 GMT -7
Yeah, I was thinking to reduce the travel to 3000mm. and pull the height under 2500.
What program did you use to make that design?
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Post by tetrault on Dec 6, 2017 14:44:34 GMT -7
I have access to 3d modeling software and a PDF editor. Definitely not through my employer though... 3000mm appears to allow for enough room to fit the space with typical framing.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 6, 2017 15:31:02 GMT -7
Ha ha! I have access to some pretty nifty design software through my employer as you can see below... Thanks, yeah to solve the free-standing issue, I was just planning to build it as you have designed there, but with a 4x4 posts, either side at the bottom with a cross beam half way up the wall and at the top. I'd like to do a cube, like the picture below, but I don't have the ceiling clearance because of those cross beams.
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Post by tetrault on Dec 8, 2017 9:17:22 GMT -7
As discussed, not sure if anyone would have an opinion on the strength of this basic design. Attached as Google sketch up 40 deg new.skp (223.53 KB) file.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 14, 2017 19:24:31 GMT -7
The ply arrived today. CD quality looks good, very few if any knots on the surface. Getting the 2x6 this weekend to make the freestanding structure. Big thanks to Tetrault for doing up designs for me - much appreciated!
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Post by tetrault on Dec 15, 2017 6:33:26 GMT -7
Hold back any thanks until you figure out that it fits and doesn't collapse Hope you enjoy the build.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 16, 2017 0:10:54 GMT -7
Today I bashed in the T-Nuts. Pro-tip - Steel T-nuts are definitely worth the extra money. Used zinc on a mates wall and they were horrible in comparison.
Also, yeah bash in. To think I was going to go screw in nuts.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 17, 2017 2:00:55 GMT -7
Renamed the thread so it's more relevant. Big weekend, drilled out the ply panels, went with a 6 inch grid in the end. Played around with ideas for a while ,but all the offsets etc. crossed over with the beams and this was the only way I could get it to work - I'm not a fan of the random approach. As you can see from one panel, my measurement wasn't perfect, but it'll do. The rest of the pine got delivered today and I got busy cutting it to size. Had asked them to do the cuts for me, but they told me the accuracy of the bench saw they use at the store is only accurate within 4mm - about an 8th of an inch. Not good enough for me, so I opted to do the cuts myself. Making the most of my $140 mitre saw. As mentioned previously, it seems the garage is not water tight, so I took a few measures today to try and rectify that. I put epoxy sealant around the edges where the water seems to getting in. I also used a marine grade lacquer on the timber that will be on the ground, and the kicker panel, in an attempt to seal it. Hopefully no water gets in, but if it does I'm hoping the seal will prevent the wood from warping. Anyway, I went with more holes than T-Nuts, so more T-nuts in the mail. With Christmas coming up, this might not get finished until the new year.
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Post by climbnkev on Dec 17, 2017 19:39:57 GMT -7
Hi, You should be able to snake some heavy gauge strapping over the tops and of the perlins between the corrugations in the roof and use the strapping to support the wall. Strap down to three joists ( each end and center) and that should support the wall nicely. Try to get 4 fasteners per side minimum, if you use a #9 structural screw that will do the trick. No need to attach directly to the structure then and no need for support posts. Use 18 ga strapping and double up the top rim joist to help prevent deflection. Text if you have questions.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 18, 2017 15:10:53 GMT -7
Unfortunately the landlord was pretty specific about me not using the existing structure to bear any weight. It was less about the drilling into, and more about their concerns that the roof beams won't support the weight. I think they're being pedantic, but I have to respect their wishes - such are the pleasures of renting vs. buying.
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Post by jetjackson on Dec 19, 2017 3:40:09 GMT -7
So I faced a bit of a set back today on my goal for a home climbing wall... Turns out the garage floods, a lot more than what I thought. It hadn't rained this hard since we moved into this new place. Pretty frustrating. The silicon job I did apparently was a complete waste of time. Looks like where I would put the wall would be about 1-2 inches under water depending on how heavy the rain is. I knew it got some rain, but didn't realize that it would be this much. The water was running through the walls on one side of the garage, so I need to get up there and clean the gutters out to improve that drainage. Apart from that, I wonder if digging a trench and putting in a french drain would help. This is becoming a much larger project than I'd originally envisioned. Luckily I sealed those bottom slats. Some of the ply panels got wet - so I'm really hoping they don't warp.
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Post by aikibujin on Dec 19, 2017 5:59:50 GMT -7
Yikes man! That is a lot of water. Maybe you should consider converting the garage to a pool and build a DWS wall instead? Haha. Keep trying, you'll get the woody done!
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Post by RobF on Dec 19, 2017 6:42:58 GMT -7
Downer- at least it happened at this stage so you can make some preparations for the future. A couple of my local walls had floods in the past couple years. One raised the floor thus losing valuable bouldering height, the other set up an elaborate flood defence system at the main door.
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