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Post by Charlie S on Aug 1, 2017 19:47:21 GMT -7
I have both. At this point in the game if I were to only have one, it'd be the Forge. However, you can still get a ton of mileage and variation on the RPTC.
I really like the Forge for the "slopey crimp" (assuming I've remembered that terminology correctly) and the micro crimp. I was doing the 2 finger pocket on it as well, but switched back to the RPTC for skin issues.
If you're super strong, I'd say Forge. Otherwise, the RPTC's versatility is the way to go.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Aug 1, 2017 20:08:57 GMT -7
Palo is "super strong."
I would definitely recommend the Forge over the RPTC, especially for stronger climbers. I currently train 4 grips on the Forge, one on the RPTC (wide pinch) and 1 on a set of campus rungs. IMO, the Forge is superior in pretty much every respect. I only use the RPTC pinch because it's sized better for my hand size.
That said, the RPTC continues to outsell the Forge almost 10 to 1! I assume that's because the RPTC is bigger, although there's also been a lot more RPTC-specific marketing.
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Post by Chris W on Aug 2, 2017 4:43:18 GMT -7
I originally got the Forge for the crimp with the thumb catch, and I'd say for that reason alone it's worth it. I feel like the Forge is a lot harder than the RPTC. At this stage for me, I actually prefer the RPTC and like the texture better. I did, however, switch my MR two finger pocket from the RPTC to the Forge. I did this because I was getting "skin pain" (as per my notes) hanging that pocket on the RPTC. The finer texture on the Forge helped to eliminate the skin pain. If you're "super strong", you're probably better off with the Forge.
BTW, what's with the cat?
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Post by tetrault on Aug 2, 2017 7:58:47 GMT -7
I also prefer the finer texture of the forge, but I have odd, delicate skin. The thumb catch on the crimp was also a big part of my initial motivation to get the forge, but have since hopped on the "campus rung crimp" bandwagon. The other selling point for me was the drafted pockets, which are noticeably more ergonomic over the RPTC,in my opinion. Not that I know you personally, Mr. Palo, but I don't think "difficulty" will be an issue for you with the forge... Unless you have gone overboard on your tic tac and cotton ball diet for too long
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Post by palo on Aug 2, 2017 9:30:28 GMT -7
BTW, what's with the cat? Alright. Sounds like the Forge is in my near future. Thanks for the input everyone. I have a french cleat mounting system at my house. And have a board with a couple campus rungs on it for warming up. I think between that and the Forge will suit my needs. Cats are amazing creatures. Nice to have a little god roaming around your house to remind you you're not good enough & should probably do another set on your hangboard
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Post by jetjackson on Aug 2, 2017 17:02:25 GMT -7
I also prefer the finer texture of the forge, but I have odd, delicate skin. The thumb catch on the crimp was also a big part of my initial motivation to get the forge, but have since hopped on the "campus rung crimp" bandwagon. The other selling point for me was the drafted pockets, which are noticeably more ergonomic over the RPTC,in my opinion. Not that I know you personally, Mr. Palo, but I don't think "difficulty" will be an issue for you with the forge... Unless you have gone overboard on your tic tac and cotton ball diet for too long
The updated RPTC has the same texture as the forge.
I've got both, I'm a fan of the thumb catch on the crimp on the forge - allows me to train the hold on reduced weight with less chance of slipping off - which I felt was an issue on the RPTC crimp, where I wouldn't engage the thumb. I eel slipping off this hold has high risk for injury due to the shocking of the tendons/pulleys.
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Post by Chris W on Aug 2, 2017 18:14:26 GMT -7
Ryan Palo? Eating the cotton ball and the tic tac after sending Just Do It? Ha! I've probably watched that video about a hundred times! Strong work! I'd love to climb there at Smith Rock some day. Maybe when all the kids grow up and move out and I retire and am too old to send anything hard...
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Post by tetrault on Aug 3, 2017 4:30:18 GMT -7
Ryan Palo? Eating the cotton ball and the tic tac after sending Just Do It? Ha! I've probably watched that video about a hundred times! Strong work! I'd love to climb there at Smith Rock some day. Maybe when all the kids grow up and move out and I retire and am too old to send anything hard... Hope to see you there. We can meet up to do an alpine start on 5 gallon buckets to beat the crowds.
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Post by palo on Aug 8, 2017 16:03:42 GMT -7
Thanks for advice everyone. I just mounted the Forge and had some time to try the grips. Im a convert. (Note the all important motivation to the right. Jean-Paul Finne on the 2nd ascent of Just Do It)
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Post by Chris W on Aug 8, 2017 20:12:50 GMT -7
Your house looks waaaayyy too neat and clean. I'm guessing you don't have any kids.
Have you tried cutting your hangboard mount in half to slide the pieces independently? I've noticed that my shoulders feel better at a certain width/position and will slide the halves on the french cleat to specific positions for different grips.
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Post by palo on Aug 9, 2017 11:12:47 GMT -7
Yep. A never ending stream of doing whatever I please, quiet, and tidiness. Yeah, I set it up to just work the inner holds. I use pinch blocks vs hangboard pinches. So that part will go to waste. I'll probably use the poor sloppers tho. You're right tho. I'll make another board here soon. Just reusing the cleat system from my other board.
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Post by Chris W on Aug 9, 2017 19:58:45 GMT -7
Ha! I gave up on quiet and tidiness once I got married. Don't tell my wife. I keep my barn neat and tidy though.
I'd be interested to hear how you end up doing with the slopers. They seem impossible to hold to me. I'm wondering if it's a strength issue, a technique issue, or both. I'm not too worried about it though, since most of my local climbing is on edges, ledges and crimps. I'm just using the sloper on the RPTC for my last grip.
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Post by tetrault on Aug 10, 2017 6:12:07 GMT -7
I also wonder if there are some skin types/states that just don't allow for as much friction on plastic. Has been discussed elsewhere; that dry glassy skin. Seems like the technique would not be complex enough to be out of your realm, at least for a deadhang.
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