richb
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Post by richb on Aug 21, 2017 14:36:39 GMT -7
I haven't been able to find much information from trusted sources on this topic. Yes, I know, it's best not to climb slabs, and if you must, then it's best not to fall. BUT... if you find yourself climbing a slab AND you fall from above your gear, how do you minimize the possibility of scraping body parts, rolling ankles, or slamming into the wall at the end of the whipper?
If the slab is bolted closely or there is plenty of supplemental pro in seams, flakes, pockets, etc., then the problem is trivial - you just fall and land with your feet against the rock. But if it's run out as anyone who has climbed at a traditional area on smooth granite slabs is all too familiar with, what do you do?
Do you try to run or shuffle your feet downward as you fall? Do you attempt to slide along on your shoe rubber? I remember Arno Ilgner mentioning the sliding technique in the Rock Warrior's Way - he described sliding on his shoes and patting the wall with his hands on the way down - sounds dubious to me.
And as for belaying strategy, do you want to give a soft catch just as you would on anything vertical or overhanging? Or do you want to take in slack and shorten the fall? On mountainproject, the late, great slab master John Strand advocated reeling in slack hand over hand on really long slab falls to reduce the risk of injury.
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ericg
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Post by ericg on Aug 22, 2017 6:45:45 GMT -7
I have limited experience taking "big" slab falls but have taken a couple in the 20ft range. Running seems to work for falls in that range. Short strides at first, increasing as you pick up speed. If your going to run a helmet is recommend in case you trip. Reeling in slack is definitely recommend. One of the major reasons soft catch is preferred for vertical/overhanging climbing is so you don't whip into the wall, for slabs there is no risk of that. Having the belay run down hill is also a technique I have heard of. I have never ran down hill. I do however make sure the coast is clear before belaying a runout slab and have taken a few steps backwards while reeling in slack.
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richb
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Post by richb on Aug 22, 2017 9:15:45 GMT -7
Thanks for the reply eric, really helpful. I've taken a few falls of around 15 feet, and I've experienced getting going so fast that it takes a lot of concentration to keep running smoothly. If the rope and/or draws/slings/pro are in the fall line, it's even more challenging - a helmet is smart. I think a wise thing for me to do is to put in some slab practice - not go up and take practice falls per se, but try some hard slabs and take falls with the mindset of really succeeding at falling safely.
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Post by Charlie S on Aug 27, 2017 8:25:32 GMT -7
Sounds like nearly every slab climb in Little Cottonwood Canyon... I don't think "sliding" will work great. Especially if there are seams and chickenheads. That'll trip you up. Running is probably the best, and has worked for me. Or for a shorter fall (or steeper slab), just push off. Bottom line: don't climb slab. Ha! From: www.mountainproject.com/v/9200251From: www.mountainproject.com/v/107203929
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richb
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Post by richb on Sept 1, 2017 10:27:16 GMT -7
Thanks Charlie. What about the approach to belaying - reel in slack?
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Post by Charlie S on Sept 2, 2017 20:45:12 GMT -7
It depends on the situation. It could be one, the other, or both. I'd guess on the average, reel in slack and then try for the dynamic catch at the end.
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