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Post by alexandra on Nov 27, 2016 20:49:02 GMT -7
The gym finally installed medium rungs on the campus board. So now we have a full set of large, medium and small (though there are no half steps since they installed the medium rungs in between the small rungs at metolius spacing).
I can do 1-3-4 on the small rungs already and 1-3-5 seems impossible at the moment. I was wondering if I should keep training on the small rungs or change to the medium rungs hoping to be able to do bigger moves faster? or maybe try to improve max ladders by mixing up the rungs? (so I would attempt 1-3-4.5 where 1 and 3 are small and 4.5 is medium or other variations) What do (intermediate) people campus on usually? smalls or mediums? what are some advantages and disadvantages of either one?
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Post by aikibujin on Nov 28, 2016 11:53:36 GMT -7
Are you able to touch rung #5 when you attempt 1-3-5 (so your problem is not able to latch it), or is it just seem impossible to even touch #5?
If the former, I would try to make the final move on the small rungs. Assume I understand your campus board correctly, I would try 1-3.5-5 (where 1 and 5 are small, and 3.5 is medium).
If the latter, I would attempt the 1-3-5 on medium rungs (1.5-3.5-5.5 on your board) until I can do them on the medium rungs, before moving on to the small rungs.
I warm up on the large and medium rungs, and I try to train big movements on the medium rungs, but I do majority of my attempts on the small rungs.
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Post by alexandra on Nov 29, 2016 13:17:26 GMT -7
no I can't touch rung 5 yet...so I guess I will try to do 1-3-5 on mediums first (though it was hard to even do that on the large rungs last time I tried...something about the second big move is not working out well for me...perhaps technique?) It might also be easier for me to do 1-3.5.-5 on the small since the second move is smaller than 3-5...
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Post by aikibujin on Nov 29, 2016 14:44:52 GMT -7
It might also be easier for me to do 1-3.5.-5 on the small since the second move is smaller than 3-5... But you wouldn't want to work on the stuff that's easier for you. If your goal is 1-3-5 on the medium and small rungs, and since it sounds like the big move from 3 to 5 is currently a problem for you, I would focus on getting the 3-5 move dialed on the big rung first, then the medium rung, before moving to the small rung. I think Mark mentioned this in one of his blog posts on campusing, the second move is hard because you're only pulling down with one hand (the top hand), and pushing down with the bottom hand. As the distance between the top hand and bottom hand gets wider, it gets increasingly harder to push down with the bottom hand. For example, I can do 1-3-5 fairly constantly on large and medium rungs (not sure on what spacing), sometimes 1-3-5.5, or even 1-3-6 with my strong hand leading. But if I try going 1-3.5 or 1-4 first, the best I can do is still 5.5 or 6 on the second move. My "max 1st move" is 1-5.5, but I can only match on the second move, get my hand up even half a space higher on the second move seems nearly impossible to me. |
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Post by Lundy on Nov 29, 2016 14:47:26 GMT -7
So the way I try to progress to an "even" move, like 1-3-5, is to get dialed in 1-3-4.5 AND 1-2.5-4.5 first. This way, you're working the larger gap both ways. Once I can do both of these, then I start working 1-3-5. Then, once that's accomplished, I move on to trying both 1-3-5.5 and 1-3.5-5.5. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by aikibujin on Nov 30, 2016 12:05:59 GMT -7
So the way I try to progress to an "even" move, like 1-3-5, is to get dialed in 1-3-4.5 AND 1-2.5-4.5 first. This way, you're working the larger gap both ways. Once I can do both of these, then I start working 1-3-5. Then, once that's accomplished, I move on to trying both 1-3-5.5 and 1-3.5-5.5. Rinse and repeat. What you said seems to make sense logically, which is why that's the first thing I tried when I wanted to increase my max ladder. But after trying a bunch of different variations, personally I wouldn't spend any time training 1-2.5-4.5 (if my limit is 1-3-4). What I found was if I reduce the distance on the first move (going from 1-3 to 1-2.5), even though it seems like I'm training for a bigger second move (2.5-4.5), I'm also making that second move easier. As soon as I increase the distance of the first move (thus make the second move harder), I can no longer cover 2 numbers on my second move. So whatever I was training by doing 1-2.5-4.5 did not transfer to 1-3-5. Eventually, I realized it was a lot more effective to just keep trying to increase the distance on the second move while keeping the difficulty consistent. I think the one exercise that was most helpful to me was start by hanging on different rungs (I'd start with L1/R3 or R1/L3), then just go as high as possible with the lower hand and match. L1/R3-L5-B5. 3 is the highest rung I can reach from the ground, otherwise I'd even try L1/R3.5-L5.5-B5.5 or something like it. |
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Post by alexandra on Dec 3, 2016 20:29:27 GMT -7
I went to the gym feeling pretty tired today and could barely complete my warmup problems.But when I hit the campus board, magically I managed to do 1-3-4.5 both on the medium and on the small rungs!! (so with my setup, it was 1 medium, 3 medium, 4.5. small or 1 small, 3 small, 4.5. medium). Now 1-3-5 doesn't seem so crazy anymore. In fact, I managed to do 1-3- and hit 5 but not latch it on the smalls!
This is during my new strength phase (where I do 2 hang board sessions and 1 campus board session a week to maintain some power)
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Post by alexandra on Dec 4, 2016 13:43:01 GMT -7
I was wondering now that 1-3-5 seems doable and it looks like I will be able to get it soon, what is the next step on the progression? Do I try to increase the first move and keep the second move same distance? (so 1-3.5. 5.5)? or do I try to do something like 1-4-5? anything else?
thanks!
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Post by aikibujin on Dec 6, 2016 22:51:35 GMT -7
Do I try to increase the first move and keep the second move same distance? (so 1-3.5. 5.5)? or do I try to do something like 1-4-5? anything else? thanks! Both! Personally, I will increase the first move first (1-3.5-5.5), and once I can do that, I'll increase the second move so I'm covering the same distance with both moves (1-3.5-6). Occasionally I'll try 1-4-whatever, but my main focus is to ingrain the movement of pushing down with the lower hand, rather than worry about latching a higher rung. If your goal is to increase your max ladder, at some point you'll need to get used to push down with your lower hand when it's below your shoulder, like what Mark is doing in the middle and right frame in this photo.  Once in a while I'll also try a max one-move, I think it's a good measure of my explosive power on the campus board (and the limit of my reach). My current max one-move is 1-5 (really the limit of my reach), but lately I've been trying a modification to my technique to increase that. |
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