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Post by Chris W on Feb 16, 2016 3:22:48 GMT -7
This past December, I managed to successfully complete the beginners campus routine in its entirety. I was able to complete (around half the time) 1,3,5 on the medium rungs. 1,3,5 did feel much harder than 1,3,4.5
My plan had been to transition to the intermediate routine once I could perform the basic routine; the problem, however, is that I have never touched the small rungs. I'm considering repeating the basic process of the beginner routine and simply substituting medium and small rungs for large and medium. Once I could perform matching and basic ladders on the small rungs, I'd move to max ladders, progressing to the full intermediate routine once I could successfully pull 1,3,5 on the small rungs.
Any thoughts?
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Post by MarkAnderson on Feb 16, 2016 13:25:22 GMT -7
Sounds like a good plan to me. You may consider working in some foot-on campusing at first to practice using the smaller rungs.
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Post by Lundy on Feb 16, 2016 13:32:53 GMT -7
Hi Chris, I also would recommend moving to the small rungs. Ultimately, the limiting factor in your climbing won't be whether you can pull up to the next hold on some decent sized holds, but rather whether you can do hard, non-static moves on smaller edges. Thus, I think campusing on smaller rungs will likely yield better returns in the long run.
Having said that, sometimes I do a few max ladders on the medium rungs (in addition to my standard workout on the small rungs), just to remind myself that I don't suck as bad as I feel sometimes on those small guys.
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Post by Chris W on Feb 16, 2016 18:26:35 GMT -7
Having said that, sometimes I do a few max ladders on the medium rungs (in addition to my standard workout on the small rungs), just to remind myself that I don't suck as bad as I feel sometimes on those small guys. Ha! Thanks for the tips guys. I'll start campusing again around the first of March. Those small rungs look pretty brutal, but it'll be interesting to see how it goes.
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Post by Lundy on Feb 16, 2016 19:17:08 GMT -7
Ha! Thanks for the tips guys. I'll start campusing again around the first of March. Those small rungs look pretty brutal, but it'll be interesting to see how it goes. Keep us posted! Looking forward to hear how it goes!
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Post by tedwelser on Feb 17, 2016 18:26:00 GMT -7
Having said that, sometimes I do a few max ladders on the medium rungs (in addition to my standard workout on the small rungs), just to remind myself that I don't suck as bad as I feel sometimes on those small guys. Ha! Thanks for the tips guys. I'll start campusing again around the first of March. Those small rungs look pretty brutal, but it'll be interesting to see how it goes. One strategy that you can use to prepare for the small rungs is to use the small rungs, or the section of the VDER that feels most similar to the small rungs in your strength stage. You could either include it as a grip in the standard workout, or your could add it in as a stand alone exercise. One goal would be to develop the capacity to do a weighted hang with +20% of your body weight for a duration equal to the time it takes to do your standard ladder, lets say 8-12 seconds. You could sort of reverse engineer the strength you would want by seeing how comfortable you feel with different levels of added weight while hanging from the medium edges.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Feb 17, 2016 20:15:07 GMT -7
Ha! Thanks for the tips guys. I'll start campusing again around the first of March. Those small rungs look pretty brutal, but it'll be interesting to see how it goes. One strategy that you can use to prepare for the small rungs is to use the small rungs, or the section of the VDER that feels most similar to the small rungs in your strength stage. You could either include it as a grip in the standard workout, or your could add it in as a stand alone exercise. One goal would be to develop the capacity to do a weighted hang with +20% of your body weight for a duration equal to the time it takes to do your standard ladder, lets say 8-12 seconds. You could sort of reverse engineer the strength you would want by seeing how comfortable you feel with different levels of added weight while hanging from the medium edges. You could, but then you would essentially be training for campusing. Is that your top priority? Granted, the type of training-for-campusing we are talking about will certainly benefit your climbing too, but this is an example of how one can get sidetracked with parlor tricks and such.
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Post by tedwelser on Feb 19, 2016 13:57:20 GMT -7
One strategy that you can use to prepare for the small rungs is to use the small rungs, or the section of the VDER that feels most similar to the small rungs in your strength stage. You could either include it as a grip in the standard workout, or your could add it in as a stand alone exercise. One goal would be to develop the capacity to do a weighted hang with +20% of your body weight for a duration equal to the time it takes to do your standard ladder, lets say 8-12 seconds. You could sort of reverse engineer the strength you would want by seeing how comfortable you feel with different levels of added weight while hanging from the medium edges. You could, but then you would essentially be training for campusing. Is that your top priority? Granted, the type of training-for-campusing we are talking about will certainly benefit your climbing too, but this is an example of how one can get sidetracked with parlor tricks and such. I suppose that is true, campusing is just a means to an end. But I also think that if finger strength on the small rungs is a limiting factor then resolving that should be a priority before trying to campus on those rungs. I have felt the most at risk while campusing when I did not have a cushion of extra strength on the rungs I was trying to use.
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Post by Chris W on Feb 19, 2016 18:19:35 GMT -7
I just checked; I'm strong enough to hang on the small rungs without any issues. The real challenge for me will definitely be moving between them. I'll do HB 6 on Sunday and am starting to "chomp at the bit" to get my body moving again. That's one thing I like about the RP method; once I start to get tired of a phase, the next one comes!
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Post by Chris W on Mar 9, 2016 18:34:55 GMT -7
So after two campus sessions, I'm a bit shocked and happy to say that the small rungs are going well. When I checked my logs, it looks like, when I started campusing two years ago, I struggled to complete even matching ladders on the large rungs. Though It still feels improbable that I'm actually latching the rungs, I've managed matching ladders to 4, basic ladders to 5, and max ladders of 1,3,4 on the small rungs (all moon spacing). I've snagged 1,3,4.5 but haven't been able to match yet. I've had to adjust my campus session plans mid workout each time because it was going better than expected.
At this point, I'm going to proceed to the full "beginners campus" plan, substituting large for medium and medium for small. Once I can successfully perform 1,3,5 on the small rungs, I'll proceed to the full "Intermediate" plan.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Mar 10, 2016 11:42:13 GMT -7
Awesome man, good work! I swear campusing is 90% mental (not to diminish your physical progress over the last 2 years). One under-appreciated aspect of systematic training is that it builds confidence in a steady manner. Part of being strong is believing you are strong, and hangboarding, campusing, etc helps create that belief through the successful completion of many baby steps.
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Post by Chris W on Mar 10, 2016 21:29:58 GMT -7
That's a great insight. After being in a rut for so long (prior to the RCTM) it has been great to improve. It makes me wonder if the strength was there in the beginning and I just didn't know how to apply it.
I'll keep you posted on the progress. Unfortunately, I have come down with the flu (influenza b) so I may be out of commission for a while. Maybe I'll lose weight...
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Post by joev9 on Mar 11, 2016 11:43:50 GMT -7
I just had a 24 hour stomach bug and dropped 3 lbs! Not recommended, but the benefit made it suck a little less...
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Post by erick on Mar 11, 2016 12:46:18 GMT -7
Mono was the best diet I ever did
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Post by jessebruni on Mar 14, 2016 13:04:32 GMT -7
Mono was the best diet I ever did Haha, same situation when I got chickenpox last year. Dropped from 137 to 132 in a week.
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