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Post by foreverv3 on Jul 1, 2015 13:58:13 GMT -7
Does anyone know if the campus training is absolutely essential during the Performance phase? During my previous (and first) training season, I did not conduct the campus workouts during this phase. I didn't notice any significant decline in performance, but I did abbreviate this phase down to 2.5 weeks before starting a new training season. Has anyone else noted any substantial gains or losses from foregoing this part of the training? I included this topic into the Physical Training as there is currently no thread on this specific phase.
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Post by jessebruni on Jul 1, 2015 16:03:31 GMT -7
Campus training during Performance phase? Am I missing something? I thought campusing went in the power phase. Performance is for rock climbing.
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Post by Lundy on Jul 1, 2015 18:17:10 GMT -7
Were you just campusing during performance for power maintenance? Otherwise, I'm with Jesse.
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Post by foreverv3 on Jul 1, 2015 22:08:13 GMT -7
For the bouldering program (p.277), I've been following the performance routine listed (or rather, not) where the 2nd, 5th and 8th workouts call for both a WBL and campus session. The campus sessions (only 3 listed) peak at 45 minutes each; no campus session is listed for the last week. I'm wondering if this was a typo in the book as these sessions are not found in the regular performance phase. They may serve for power preservation as suggested by Lundy, which would make sense as boulderers only train strength and power (in the RCTM program, CH.15). That may have been the methodology for incorporating the sessions into the Performance phase to help sustain the time you would be able to send. I'm now guessing that because I skipped those workouts, that maybe the reason I felt significantly weaker after 2 weeks and had to cut my sending season by nearly 2 weeks... So I guess I should incorporate some type of power workout during the performance phase if I want to continue my performance, right? I don't have any data to fall back on other than the number days I was able to climb at my peak level...
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Post by tedwelser on Jul 1, 2015 22:28:21 GMT -7
I see what you are talking about. I think you can decide whether limit bouldering or campusing on the midweek Wednesday makes more sense for your goals.
Personally I would be torn between the clear measurability of campusing and the more potential specificity of limit bouldering. Also i would avoid campusing if the intensity would prevent you from having full fitness on the following Saturday.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Jul 2, 2015 8:38:17 GMT -7
For the bouldering program (p.277), I've been following the performance routine listed (or rather, not) where the 2nd, 5th and 8th workouts call for both a WBL and campus session. The campus sessions (only 3 listed) peak at 45 minutes each; no campus session is listed for the last week. I'm wondering if this was a typo in the book as these sessions are not found in the regular performance phase. They may serve for power preservation as suggested by Lundy, which would make sense as boulderers only train strength and power (in the RCTM program, CH.15). That may have been the methodology for incorporating the sessions into the Performance phase to help sustain the time you would be able to send. I'm now guessing that because I skipped those workouts, that maybe the reason I felt significantly weaker after 2 weeks and had to cut my sending season by nearly 2 weeks... So I guess I should incorporate some type of power workout during the performance phase if I want to continue my performance, right? I don't have any data to fall back on other than the number days I was able to climb at my peak level... Correct (except the part about the typo--heresy!).
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Post by MarkAnderson on Jul 2, 2015 8:40:42 GMT -7
Personally I would be torn between the clear measurability of campusing and the more potential specificity of limit bouldering. Also i would avoid campusing if the intensity would prevent you from having full fitness on the following Saturday. I usually think I'm going to emphasize LBing, but then my skin starts to get worked, so I switch to campusing (earlier in the workout than expected) to save my skin for the next performance day. YMMV depending on the sharpness of your LB problems, the quality of your skin, the need for skin on your outdoor projects, etc.
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Post by foreverv3 on Jul 3, 2015 20:16:27 GMT -7
For the bouldering program (p.277), I've been following the performance routine listed (or rather, not) where the 2nd, 5th and 8th workouts call for both a WBL and campus session. The campus sessions (only 3 listed) peak at 45 minutes each; no campus session is listed for the last week. I'm wondering if this was a typo in the book as these sessions are not found in the regular performance phase. They may serve for power preservation as suggested by Lundy, which would make sense as boulderers only train strength and power (in the RCTM program, CH.15). That may have been the methodology for incorporating the sessions into the Performance phase to help sustain the time you would be able to send. I'm now guessing that because I skipped those workouts, that maybe the reason I felt significantly weaker after 2 weeks and had to cut my sending season by nearly 2 weeks... So I guess I should incorporate some type of power workout during the performance phase if I want to continue my performance, right? I don't have any data to fall back on other than the number days I was able to climb at my peak level... Correct (except the part about the typo--heresy!). Sorry Mark, didn't mean for my conjecture to be blasphemous.
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