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Post by Michael Hall on May 6, 2014 11:14:51 GMT -7
I happen to have a long standing vacation that falls right around the transition from my Strength to Power phase in my current cycle. How detrimental is a week long vacation to the cycle if there is no way to fit any "real" training in during that vacation?
Is it at all beneficial that it falls within a transition period?
Anyone have any tactics to minimize losses during the week off?
Thanks,
MAH
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Post by MarkAnderson on May 6, 2014 14:32:59 GMT -7
Are you able to climb outside or get to a climbing gym? If it were me, I would probably try to boulder at least every 3rd or 4th day, if I had access to decent bouldering. I would definitely recommend that you do some kind of training during that time. I've taken 5 consecutive rest days within a cycle without any serious detriment to my fitness (YMMV), but I would generally avoid such a long break, and I would be really concerned about going longer than that. How many days are we talking about?
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Post by MarkAnderson on May 6, 2014 14:35:15 GMT -7
Also, yes, I think its beneficial that it comes during the transition. IME the best time to take a mini-vacation is early in the Strength Phase, as early as possible. Taking a break eary in the Power Phase is kinda the same idea. You won't be firing on all cylinders right away anyway, so any loss in fitness or focus (which is probably the bigger factor) will be harder to notice early on.
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Post by Chris W on May 8, 2014 20:36:52 GMT -7
I've wondered about this with regards to illness. My daughter (2 1/2 years old) is often Patient Zero in our house, and from there it's hit or miss who catches what. I'm in a base phase right now and have been "off" for the last 3 days with a nasty febrile-vomiting-diarrhea illness. It's wiped out our whole family. I typically don't train at all when I'm sick. Any thoughts?
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Post by Michael Hall on May 9, 2014 6:33:26 GMT -7
My vacation is a Saturday to Sunday, so a solid week, and unfortunately I have a business trip right before it to deal with as well. I can sneak in a session before each trip, and I think I ought to be able to sneak in a bouldering session mid-week for the trip, albeit at the risk of unsettling my better half..."this is not a climbing trip"...I appreciate the thoughts!
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Post by MarkAnderson on May 9, 2014 12:53:03 GMT -7
I've wondered about this with regards to illness. My daughter (2 1/2 years old) is often Patient Zero in our house, and from there it's hit or miss who catches what. I'm in a base phase right now and have been "off" for the last 3 days with a nasty febrile-vomiting-diarrhea illness. It's wiped out our whole family. I typically don't train at all when I'm sick. Any thoughts? Yes, I have two young incubators myself. Believe it or not, i've found "Emergen-C" really helps me avoid the steady parade of illness the kids bring home from daycare. I get the bulk stuff at Costco which makes it much more affordable (45 day supply for ~$15 I think?) I take two packets per daybefore/after bed. I will still get some cold-like symptoms, but nowhere near as severe as my wife gets. Her mistake is she waits till she starts getting sick to take it. I find I really have to take it religiously for it to work* Of course, once you're sick there's not much you can do. I train through colds, but not the flu. Heavy aerobic training can make a cold much worse, and so should be avoided. Fortunately most sport-specific climbing training won't get you huffing and puffing. Most stomache bugs come and go really quickly, so its usually not too hard to just postpone your training until you've recovered. Also, you can loose a few pounds in the process: "I'm only one stomach flu from my goal weight" - Devil Wears Prada *Remember, placebos only work if you believe they work!
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Post by adrock on May 11, 2014 9:13:56 GMT -7
Interesting topic. I've got a long standing bouldering trip planned for memorial day weekend to Leavenworth. This happens to fall right between my strength and power cycles.
Is there anything I should focus on or avoid? (Besides not enjoying the brewery too much).
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Post by MarkAnderson on May 12, 2014 15:02:45 GMT -7
adrock,
I would consider shortening your Strength Phase a bit so you can get 1 or 2 Power workouts in before your trip. Alternatively, you could shorten the last couple of Strength workouts and throw in some Limit Bouldering at the end of each.
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Post by adrock on May 14, 2014 16:17:31 GMT -7
Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it!
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Post by Michael Hall on May 16, 2014 8:31:42 GMT -7
my vaca is in Telluride the first week of June...anyone have beta on the best bouldering that I could sneak off to? its a big family vaca so can't really get out for a full day. thanks, MAH
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Post by Greying on Granite on May 20, 2014 2:37:52 GMT -7
my vaca is in Telluride the first week of June...anyone have beta on the best bouldering that I could sneak off to? its a big family vaca so can't really get out for a full day. thanks, MAH You're probably better off asking over at MountainProject.com!
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Post by Michael Hall on May 20, 2014 5:05:23 GMT -7
fair enough...
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Post by avaserfi on Jun 30, 2014 17:03:00 GMT -7
I just started planning my next training cycle and realized I have a trip to Colorado right in the middle of my first week of power endurance. If I follow my current plan I will get one LBC in, if I push I could get a second. We will be on vacation for one week during which time I will have 1.5-2 days of climbing. The rest of the time will be spent doing other outdoor activities (rafting, hiking etc). Originally, when this trip was planned I wasn't thinking of climbing any routes at my limit, just planning some time on beautiful moderate routes my first time in CO. Now, I'm thinking I might try to get a couple red point burns in then finish up my training cycle.
So, should I consider truncating my cycle to put myself deeper in the PE phase during the trip or leave it as is? If I should truncate the cycle where are the best options? I have this cycle as stands: 6 arc sessions over two weeks, 9 HB sessions over 4 weeks, 6 campus and 3LB sessions over 3 weeks then the first week of PE.
Thanks for the advice
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Post by MarkAnderson on Jul 1, 2014 12:26:33 GMT -7
Where are you going to be in CO? If you will have access to some pumpy climbing, you could have the best of both worlds, by using your time in CO for some outdoor training on pumpy terrain. That way you have a chance to climb something without significantly impacting your training schedule.
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Post by avaserfi on Jul 2, 2014 6:45:00 GMT -7
We will be in CO early September. We were planning on climbing in Estes Park.
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