Post by Ben on Apr 17, 2014 7:37:45 GMT -7
Hi Mark and Mike,
You have a very useful product here, with both the book and website. Thanks for your efforts. I have a question regarding the different types of ways to train a four finger edge on the hangboard. 0I have found that I don't see a lot of difference (in appearance) between an open grip, a closed grip (with thumb), and a half crimp when trying to use all four fingers. Perhaps my fingers are of strange length, but I don't seem to be able to hold an edge with a completely open grip (minimal bend in all fingers) if my pinky is involved. My pinky seems too short to allow the other fingers to stay mostly straight. Is this true for everyone?
Also, the only difference I can observe between a closed crimp and a half crimp is in my pointer finger. My pointer is mostly straight in a half crimp but very bent (or closed) in a closed crimp. It doesn't seem like anything else changes in my other fingers. Perhaps the others are different by a few degrees? Or maybe i'm just not looking closely enough from my angle of perspective? So, for you, are you able to observe other differences in position between those two grips?
Finally, a question about the closed crimp grip. I assume you wrap the thumb over the first finger when training the closed crimp, yes? I wonder if not wrapping the thumb would allow better results? I have experimented with mimicking the exact position of all the fingers (angles, etc) but leaving the thumb off the first finger. The reps then end when there is any "collapsing of the fingers" (they tend to begin to straighten- rep ends when this occurs). The one advantage I have noticed from this is avoidance of skin tears on the cuticle of my first finger. Apparently, i wrap my thumb with such force that eventually i split the cuticle lengthwise along the finger when training a closed crimp with the thumb wrapped- I may also be sliding my thumb an imperceptible distance across the cuticle. Have you ever played with this grip in this way? If not, can you see any problems or pitfalls there? (besides the thumb not doing any of the work?)
Sorry that got a little wordy- hope it's clear enough to understand. Thank you for any thoughts you have.
Ben
You have a very useful product here, with both the book and website. Thanks for your efforts. I have a question regarding the different types of ways to train a four finger edge on the hangboard. 0I have found that I don't see a lot of difference (in appearance) between an open grip, a closed grip (with thumb), and a half crimp when trying to use all four fingers. Perhaps my fingers are of strange length, but I don't seem to be able to hold an edge with a completely open grip (minimal bend in all fingers) if my pinky is involved. My pinky seems too short to allow the other fingers to stay mostly straight. Is this true for everyone?
Also, the only difference I can observe between a closed crimp and a half crimp is in my pointer finger. My pointer is mostly straight in a half crimp but very bent (or closed) in a closed crimp. It doesn't seem like anything else changes in my other fingers. Perhaps the others are different by a few degrees? Or maybe i'm just not looking closely enough from my angle of perspective? So, for you, are you able to observe other differences in position between those two grips?
Finally, a question about the closed crimp grip. I assume you wrap the thumb over the first finger when training the closed crimp, yes? I wonder if not wrapping the thumb would allow better results? I have experimented with mimicking the exact position of all the fingers (angles, etc) but leaving the thumb off the first finger. The reps then end when there is any "collapsing of the fingers" (they tend to begin to straighten- rep ends when this occurs). The one advantage I have noticed from this is avoidance of skin tears on the cuticle of my first finger. Apparently, i wrap my thumb with such force that eventually i split the cuticle lengthwise along the finger when training a closed crimp with the thumb wrapped- I may also be sliding my thumb an imperceptible distance across the cuticle. Have you ever played with this grip in this way? If not, can you see any problems or pitfalls there? (besides the thumb not doing any of the work?)
Sorry that got a little wordy- hope it's clear enough to understand. Thank you for any thoughts you have.
Ben