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Post by tradmike on Dec 14, 2014 9:09:16 GMT -7
Was wondering what everyone does as far as planning and training when they come down with something. AS of right now have a wicked sinus infection/cold and its driving me crazy. I'm still in the base phase with hangboarding starting in a week. Don't want to lose any gains i have gotten so far, but i'll be damned if i can train with this right now.
Thanks
oh and damn, this diet and weight management thing is a real pain in the ass
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Post by heelhook on Dec 14, 2014 10:12:21 GMT -7
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Post by heelhook on Dec 14, 2014 10:13:42 GMT -7
Regarding weight management; I've found that cutting back on carbs and focusing on fats and protein on rest days is really helpful. I was struggling feeling lethargic on rest days until I made that switch and now feel better.
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Post by slimshaky on Dec 14, 2014 10:17:17 GMT -7
well, the good news is if you are going to get sick during a cycle, now is the best time to do it. you could probably still do some short base/ARC stuff indoors, but i would focus on getting decent rest to prepare for the HB workouts. also, i would focus on getting rid of the sinus infection, which might mean not training and just resting.
i had a bad sinus infection a few years ago and kept climbing outdoors (cold winter conditions). i couldn't shake it for about a month and ended up needing sinus surgery. it completely sucked. i have a really crooked nose, and they couldn't get the tools up there to do the job, so they pretty much had to break my nose to do it. i was in kind of rough shape for a while.
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Post by tradmike on Dec 14, 2014 12:22:42 GMT -7
Sounds like i need to just suck it up. I will agree i want to be fully healthy for the hangboard phase.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Dec 14, 2014 15:22:17 GMT -7
i had a bad sinus infection a few years ago and kept climbing outdoors (cold winter conditions). i couldn't shake it for about a month and ended up needing sinus surgery. it completely sucked. i have a really crooked nose, and they couldn't get the tools up there to do the job, so they pretty much had to break my nose to do it. i was in kind of rough shape for a while. Dude, you have some crazy stories!
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Post by MarkAnderson on Dec 14, 2014 15:26:08 GMT -7
Another tip, I usually keep a bag of cough drops on hand in case I have to train with a cold. They provide some temporary relief in case of a sore throat or a cough.
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Post by slimshaky on Dec 15, 2014 10:30:12 GMT -7
i had a bad sinus infection a few years ago and kept climbing outdoors (cold winter conditions). i couldn't shake it for about a month and ended up needing sinus surgery. it completely sucked. i have a really crooked nose, and they couldn't get the tools up there to do the job, so they pretty much had to break my nose to do it. i was in kind of rough shape for a while. Dude, you have some crazy stories! yeah, it was pretty crazy. during the month i had the infection they had me on some sort of steroid nasal spray and the doctor warned me that i might get roid rage. holy cow man, even I didn't enjoy hanging out with myself. it was horrible. it was a miracle that my wife didn't "accidently" thread the grigri backwards . in all seriousness though, the few times that i have gotten a cold or other minor sickness during my HB phase it seems like my first workout afterwards i am a bit weak, but the next few i come roaring back. so tradmike, don't let it get you to bummed, you should come back ok.
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Post by tradmike on Dec 20, 2014 11:32:18 GMT -7
Well It appears i'm only gonna manage to squeek out one arc session this week. I guess its better than nothing, managed two 25 minutes sets of traversing around the gym. Still trying to get this damn cold to go away wicked headaches, and hurts in chest when i cough. Can't wait to start the strength phase next week.
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Post by slimshaky on Dec 20, 2014 11:57:43 GMT -7
well, as 'luck' would have it, i got sick this week also. i had a great HB workout (#4) on sunday. boom, monday night i was sick and missed work tuesday through thursday. i feel good today (other than i might have shingles, but that shouldn't affect my grip strength too much ), so i am going to do HB workout #5 and see how it goes. it's always tough to figure out what weights to use in this sort of case, so i will have to see how my warmup goes and see if i can do a decent job guesstimating. i'll report back this evening
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Post by slimshaky on Dec 22, 2014 9:50:46 GMT -7
alright, here is my late report. i did workout #5 approximately 6 days after workout #4. this was the 2nd day of feeling fairly well. i thought that i might be able to do it a day earlier, but from previous experience i decided to wait one more day. saturday morning when i woke up i was chomping at the bit, and i was very sure i was ready for my workout.
i was really curious to see what sort of resistances i should use. i only lost about 2 lbs of weight, so that was one less factor to consider (thankfully). i ended up deciding to add 2.5 lbs to each grip, which is consistent with my standard format.
my warmup went well, and i was able to pass all of my sets and grips. i was pretty psyched about that, as usually around workout #5 things are getting pretty tough. my muscle strength felt really good.
on the flip side, there were a few things that didn't feel so good. the bones in my fingers really hurt. it literally felt like they were all about to break. i don't typically have this issue so it was kind of weird. my skin also felt like it was taking a beating, although i didn't get any flappers or have to stop any sets. it was just raw. also, my tendons felt kind of sore and achey.
in terms of recovery after this workout, i have been really tired. i will probably wait an extra day for my next HB workout. in general though, i think i was able to keep my training somewhat on track, although maybe a little delayed. it will be interesting to see how the next few workouts go.
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Post by kerwinl on Dec 22, 2014 14:59:04 GMT -7
I dont have hard rules about training when under the weather. Depending on the phase and how sick I am, I train or dont train. If I am VERY fatigued I wont train power, power endurance, or work capacity, and most likely not strength. If I am feeling just a little under the weather I will keep on fingerboarding or ARCing if that is the current phase. If the illness is likely to be shortlived (ie. only a few days), I will often swap sessions around and do the maintenance workouts while sick, leaving the progressive workouts to when I am feeling better.
That said, taking a week or two off is not gonna kill you, no matter how much you think it is. Especially if the larger cycle is months long. Take the rest and enjoy it, your body will be at a better state when you come back.
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