erk
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Post by erk on Nov 18, 2017 16:48:56 GMT -7
I've been dreaming of having my own home wall since I started following the RP method a few years ago and I'm finally at a place in my life where that's possible. For reasons, I cannot build it in a garage. I have been looking at putting a Tuff Shed in my backyard. This is the largest shed I could do without applying for a permit. I mostly climb at Smith. My plan is to have a 30 wall on one side (Due to math it could only go up 10ft, but that's fine) and a gently overhung wall on the other. I would like to have my HB in there and some campus rungs if there is room. There is also a possibility that I may only be able to do a 12'x12'x13'10" which could be a really tight space. Any feedback or suggestions? Thanks everyone! .
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Post by jcm on Nov 18, 2017 18:01:47 GMT -7
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Post by MarkAnderson on Nov 18, 2017 18:40:10 GMT -7
Also, a “Tuff” Shed is rather appropriate for a Smith climber... Lol!
Seems like if you added a kick plate to the base of the 30deg wall, you might be able to get it a bit taller? 12' is exactly the width/depth of the Lazy H, so you should have no problem fitting two opposing walls in there. Mine is 24' long, but I could certainly get by with 16'. The wall I use primarily for LBing is only 12' wide, and the wall that I mostly ARC on is 16' wide.
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Post by jrblack on Nov 18, 2017 19:14:06 GMT -7
I'm surprised you can even get off the ground
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Post by tetrault on Nov 20, 2017 14:35:05 GMT -7
No interest in building your own shed?
Certainly more work, etc, but you could maybe build a more useful shape for the space you have.
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Post by climbnkev on Nov 25, 2017 7:34:26 GMT -7
Couple things to consider: - getting a permit can be a pain but is not that challenging in most counties and will protect you from poor workmanship by your contractor. - Gambrel roof sheds are designed to have their loft floor for structural integrity. It takes extra engineering to build with out the bottom chord on the roof trusses. Make sure your builder knows if you plan to remove these so your roof can be built properly. - Tough Shed is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality around here. I have to manage their builds on occasion (have a garage being built for a customer in a month). Just realize you get what you pay for. I do like the metal floor system and their door hardware on their sheds. If you have the carpentry skills to build a wall a shed is not that much harder. By building yourself you can take the time to level your foundation, seal your windows, and build with the intent of insulating the space. None of these items will be addressed by Tough Shed, who will try to build it in a half day. You can find good plans for a Gambrel roof Shed at www.icreatables.com.
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richb
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Post by richb on Nov 25, 2017 10:35:10 GMT -7
climbnkev is it a square footage limit that triggers a permit requirement, or is it plumbing/heating/electrical? Or does it vary too much by state/county/municipality to say without talking to my town? (We're in southern Maine.) Thanks for the website with plans - great resource for planning out the dream shed this winter. Do you know of any good resources for estimating construction costs for DIY?
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Post by tetrault on Nov 25, 2017 10:58:38 GMT -7
Agreed on the building with intent to seal, insulate and install the climbing surface. Not saying it is easier to build your own, but you will likely end up with something you are much happier with and you may enjoy the build more than spending time screwing around to modify a new structure.
There are some great YouTube vids that show you every step needed to build a shed.
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Post by climbnkev on Nov 25, 2017 20:19:54 GMT -7
climbnkev is it a square footage limit that triggers a permit requirement, or is it plumbing/heating/electrical? Or does it vary too much by state/county/municipality to say without talking to my town? (We're in southern Maine.) Thanks for the website with plans - great resource for planning out the dream shed this winter. Do you know of any good resources for estimating construction costs for DIY? The minimum square footage varies by the county, but it's usually pretty easy to find on the county web site. Usually any utilities require additional permits that can be attached to the full building permit. Home owners are generally able to pull their own permits and even do their own electrical and plumbing. There are construction estimating programs available, but for a simple shed it is usually easier to go through the plans and create a list on Home Depot with the items needed. A safe bet would be that you can build a shed for about 50% of what a company like Tough Shed will build for you.
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erk
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Post by erk on Nov 28, 2017 14:52:05 GMT -7
jcm - Thanks for sharing! I haven't seen that blog yet.
Mark- Thanks! I've been eyeing your blog post where your talk about the dimensions quite a bit lately.
tetraul - I live in the PNW, it's super wet here and it would take me some time to put one up.
climbnkev - Thanks for the input, life is a little busy and I would still be able to have a great place to train in a TuffShed.
It may still be while before this gets going. I'll update if things get going!
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