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Post by Lundy on Feb 5, 2016 15:07:06 GMT -7
Alexandra, I would hold off on worrying about dieting for now, given that (a) you're a beginner, and (b) your body is going to change pretty dramatically by shifting from surfing to climbing. I took a few years off of climbing while living in Central America, and started surfing all the time instead. I figured they were both "upper body workouts", but I was really surprised at how my physique changed. When I moved back to climbing, it naturally changed back again. So I would say take some time letting your body adapt to the new strains you're placing on it before worrying about how you will manage your weight as it relates to climbing.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Feb 5, 2016 15:35:15 GMT -7
I assume dieting with an eating disorder is similar to alcoholism in the sense that, while having a beer or two on the weekends is no big deal for most of us, for an alcoholic that can lead down a dangerous path. In both cases there is a psychological affliction in place that causes what would be an acceptable, controllable thing, to be dangerous. But I don't believe everyone can go from normal dieting, to eating disorder. It takes a certain kind of person to develop an eating disorder, and that was the distinction I was trying to make when I was saying that it's not so simple as "If you diet too much you'll develop anorexia nervosa or anorexia athletica". I guess the issue is that most people probably won't know whether or not their that type of person. Ya, I think you're probably right, at least to some extent. But I imagine its more like a spectrum than a black or white thing, where some people are more or less pre-disposed to have an addictive or (probably more accurate in this case) obsessive personality. My concern is that I think the sort of people who really get into training for climbing are also the sort of people who may be inclined to take dieting too far. That is to say, "obsessive people". We've all seen the lengths some of us will go to to optimize every aspect of our performance. Body weight is another aspect that can be optimized, but it's not always clear to the individual what is optimal and what is too lean. My understanding of the various eating disorders is that for those who have one of them, it can be very difficult to accept/realize that they've reached an optimal or satisfactory body weight. Instead they are compelled to always strive for lower and lower...just like we are never satisfied with our finger strength, footwork, etc--we think it could always be a little better.
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Post by alexandra on Feb 8, 2016 16:33:02 GMT -7
Mark, i have the same point of view in this. People that train and "obsess" over goals such as sending a project (myself included), i feel are the most likely personalities to fall into the trap. I would actually be interested in seeing how many climbers have gone down that path starting from simple dieting, but perhaps on the other hand, athletes in general care about being strong so they realize their limits since they don't want to lose their strength, so they stop themselves from extreme weightloss... who knows. Thanks everyone for your responses. I am now better equipped to make an educated decision regarding the dieting part when the time comes.
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Post by chrisbecker on Feb 11, 2016 14:32:37 GMT -7
Mark: My understanding so far was that I should diet through Power + PE, and maintain throughout Performance. Reading this threat that might be wrong.
I'm currently at 223 lbs (at 6'8", just to make sure you don't picture me as a walking doughnut) and was aiming to cut 15 - 18 lbs once I'm done with my Strength phase. Three weeks for that won't be enough though, so I'm a bit unsure now when to start starving myself.
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Post by joev9 on Feb 11, 2016 14:40:54 GMT -7
Mark: My understanding so far was that I should diet through Power + PE, and maintain throughout Performance. Reading this threat that might be wrong. I'm currently at 223 lbs (at 6'8", just to make sure you don't picture me as a walking doughnut) and was aiming to cut 15 - 18 lbs once I'm done with my Strength phase. Three weeks for that won't be enough though, so I'm a bit unsure now when to start starving myself. You might be the tallest climber I have ever heard of. It would be interesting to climb with you because you probably do everything completely different than I would (I'm only 5'10").
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