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Post by MarkAnderson on Mar 27, 2015 10:17:15 GMT -7
if I were a high school wrestler, I would DEFINITELY drink all these IPAs.
Maybe if you wrestled for some uptown prep school
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Post by Jesse W. on Mar 28, 2015 11:52:40 GMT -7
The last thing I remember is opening the fridge and saying to myself, "if I were a high school wrestler, I would DEFINITELY drink all these IPAs." Haha, that's awesome, and trust me I've been through the same thing. If I don't put the brakes on I will go absolutely insane during a refeed.
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Post by Koral on Jul 7, 2016 12:30:09 GMT -7
Edit to add: Here's a top-level article that explains the concepts: www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/carb-backloading-to-get-lean
I think Carb Nite is much more relevant to us than Carb Backloading. And that leads to another point, which is to be careful following Bodybuilder advice. They don't care about weight, they care about lean-ness. We care about strength-to-weight ratio, although certainly lean-ness can help with that, but bodybuilders try hard to avoid muscle-mass loss. Climbers shouldn't necessarily worry so much about that (depending on the muscle, etc). We should care more about strength-to-weight ratio loss, which is not necessarily the same thing. About CarbNite vs Carb Backloading form Kiefer itself www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc15FEcFUXIPerhaps carb back loading would be more appropriate for strength phase?
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Post by Koral on Jul 22, 2016 5:17:42 GMT -7
I'm doing some research on re-feeds kind of diets (and trying to find a working implementation for me). Perhaps you can find interesting this ebook on the topic. I's a bit more precise on freqs and quantities respect most of the other stuffs I've found around for now. www.ironmagazine.com/ebooks/Guide_to_Flexible_Dieting.pdf
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Post by joecoov on Jul 23, 2016 12:57:42 GMT -7
An interesting research article to note about anyone trying to lose weight examines metabolic rates after an exercise and nutrition weight loss program from the TV show the biggest loser. Though most on this site aren't losing that much weight, it showed that once the weight was lost, the individuals who lost weight actually had a lower resting metabolic rate then those who were normally at that weight. No wonder it is so hard to lose weight and keep it off! I think it lends credence to the RCTM method showing that lost weight is hard to maintain, so losing it for select "performance" times may be the best strategy. Anyway, just figured I would share it. -Joe onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21538/full
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Post by Koral on Aug 4, 2016 1:34:22 GMT -7
Hi guys, just a quick update. Because of the last book I've linked above I came in to this guy Lyle McDonald. I went through some of his books (they are surprisingly well written) and actually since a couple of week I'm implementing this one. The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook A Scientific Approach to Crash Dieting ( www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-rapid-fat-loss-handbook/ ) Yes as you can guess I'm into PW phase so it's definitely time to cut The diet described is really not that far to what Mark described. But the book is full of details suggestion + explanations about the science behind. After having went through both ("The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook" and "Carb nite solution") I have to say that my preference goes definitely for the first one. Lyle's approach looks like more scientific to me compared to the Kiefer one and also I could find many more quantitative advises into the first. By the way seams the strategy is definitely working cause for now I'm loosing around 1.5kg/week. (actually I can't imagine how it could not work from this point of view with such a restricted caloric intake). The really good point for me is that I'm not noticing lose of lean mass. Considering that when I started cutting I was around 10%BFP sounds pretty nice to me for now. Hope it helps. Best!
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