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Post by daustin on Oct 19, 2016 21:16:09 GMT -7
OK, one more newbie question for this thread.
As mentioned previously, I'm not able to put a woody in my garage or backyard. Mostly due to lack of space, but also due to lack of spousal buy-in (understandably so, given the space issue).
The upside is that this week my wife proactively suggested something that hadn't even occurred to me: put a woody on our roof! Our house has a flat gravel roof. I haven't actually been up there myself to scope out if there's enough space for this to be feasible, but assuming there is enough space, I'm trying to think of all the reasons why putting a woody on the roof might NOT be a good idea.
1) Stability. I assume that the roof is strong enough to withstand me falling onto a crash pad over and over without collapsing?
2) Anchoring. My understanding is that with no support structures to anchor into, a woody on the roof would need to be totally free-standing, which would mostly pose an issue in terms of needing extra space for framing?
3) Weather. I live near the ocean in a very foggy climate, so there's a lot of moist, salty and sandy air blowing around at all times. I imagine I could spend a little extra $ on more weather resistant materials for building, and also have some sort of tarp covering to protect against weather
4) Building codes. I don't know if anyone here will be able to weigh in on this, but I guess there's some risk that some city official spots a structure on our roof and we get inspected and have to tear it down or fined or something. To be honest, I'm not too worried about this as 99% of the homes in our neighborhood have substantial unpermitted work done, and my understanding is that as long as you're not renting out your home, then nobody really bats an eye
So... am I crazy to think that I could put a woody on the roof? If there's enough space for a free-standing bouldering wall, should I go for it??? If so, I promise to come back with hundreds more questions when I start building...
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Post by daustin on Oct 23, 2016 10:54:05 GMT -7
Shamelessly paging handypeople to this thread... MarkAnderson Lundy Chris W tedwelserAm I a nut for thinking about putting a woody on my roof? One other downside I thought of is that it might interfere with roof replacement, which we'll probably need in the next 3-5 years. However, since that's an infrequent issue, I don't see it as a real barrier to putting a woody up there. For reference, all the homes in my neighborhood, including mine, look like this activerain.com/image_store/uploads/agents/scottkeys/files/typ%20parkside%20homes.jpg At most there's an shingled facade on the front of some homes, but they're all flat gravel roofs. |
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Post by Lundy on Oct 23, 2016 18:48:50 GMT -7
HAHAHA... I was sortof avoiding this one as I think it could get really tricky. First, most people who build "free-standing" outdoor walls put posts pretty far into the ground as the foundation (see, for example, Steph Davis' wall). Without that, I think you'd have a hard time getting the stability you need. You could build a totally free-standing wall, but it would (a) probably be pretty small, and (b) create a pretty epic hazard in a heavy windstorm, as if it were angled wrong, it would effectively act as a massive sail.
So, while I don't think it's impossible, I'd probably suggest building a shed on your roof instead that is structurally part of your home (aka not gonna blow away in your next tropical storm) and build the wall inside it. It will also facilitate training in crap weather, and potentially add value to your house long run as future tenants could use it as a storage unit of sorts. If you're doing this, you'd essentially tear up part of the roof as is and attach it to the existing ceiling joists (soon to become your floor joists). You could handy-man this yourself, but it would probably make sense to bring someone in to at least design it and frame it to make sure you've got it dialed.
Hope these thoughts are moderately helpful...
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Post by tedwelser on Oct 23, 2016 20:39:37 GMT -7
Lets assume that weight is not a problem. You would need to find out, but for now, I will assume your roof can hold six hundred pounds of weight or more. I would build a rectangular framed box using 2X8's, and put like a 60 degree woody inside it. If the box was 8 feet tall, and the 60 degree wall started 2 feet above the floor you could run about 10 feet horizontally including the framing. Then you could have a tarp or more solid roof over the top of it to reduce the water and weather damage. 8 feet wide would be good, and you could mount a hang board on the lip at the front.
This is similar to the shed idea, but I think a steep wall is inherently more stable and gets you more climbing per ft of height.
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Post by MarkAnderson on Oct 24, 2016 11:22:29 GMT -7
It might be easier to move than to build a climbing wall on your roof, haha. I'm sure it's possible but it seems pretty sketchy to me. Your roof is a pretty important part of your house, both in terms of not falling on you and keeping out the elements. Generally roof trusses are designed to support certain loads based on assumptions about snowfall, etc. There is certainly some margin in those calculations, but I don't know how much. It seems like it would create a lot of risks like increased structural loads, water damage, problems with the city/neighbors, potentially voiding your homeowners insurance, etc. In summary, yes, I think you're a nut  |
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Post by daustin on Oct 24, 2016 12:22:21 GMT -7
Haha thanks everybody. Those are the kinds of helpful, realistic, and grounded responses I was afraid of!!!
Sounds like having a home woody will remain a pipedream for the time being. I'll probably do a bit more research into the load capacity of the roof (as well as re-read my homeowners insurance policy!), but unfortunately seems like the risks probably outweigh the benefits. Back to the drawing board!
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Post by tedwelser on Oct 25, 2016 18:40:46 GMT -7
Haha thanks everybody. Those are the kinds of helpful, realistic, and grounded responses I was afraid of!!! Sounds like having a home woody will remain a pipedream for the time being. I'll probably do a bit more research into the load capacity of the roof (as well as re-read my homeowners insurance policy!), but unfortunately seems like the risks probably outweigh the benefits. Back to the drawing board! I think you should think creatively about the space that you have inside your home. In the early 90's I had no money, no furniture and 3 roommates in a small apartment. So, obviously, I built a free standing woody in the living room that doubled as a storage shelf. The woody was a small, super steep wall that only allowed for 3 move limit problems, but it was much better than nothing. Later, I was staying in a cabin that I could not build anything intrusive, so I made a small campus board that I could strap to the underside of an exposed set of stairs (the kind with treads by not the vertical board between the treads). Anyways, I could campus with feet off or feet on and do some moves, enough to get a workout in. Get creative! |
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Post by daustin on Oct 26, 2016 19:35:38 GMT -7
Thanks Ted, totally agree with what you're saying. Near term fix will be the removable plywood panel for ARC paddling. I also have some outdoor stairs and was thinking of just putting some screw on holds on them for warming up pre-HB. I'm sure I'll come up with other ideas in time.
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Post by aoktav on Sept 17, 2017 11:29:56 GMT -7
 Success! Thanks again for the input, Mark & Ted. With the help of a friend, successfully mounted the HB in my garage, using the z-hanger method for the adjustable mount. I haven't actually done a HB workout yet, and need to sand off some of the texture from the RPTC, but it seems like the perfect height for me to just be able to reach the top jugs and have my weights hanging off the ground and away from the wall at a comfortable distance. Hey, Daustin. I actually building a hangboard mount using the same idea like yours. What size of wood screws did you use for mounting the hangboard to the sliding boards? I found out the wood screws that came with the RPTC aren't for an adjustable mounting set-up? Thanks! |
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Post by Chris W on Sept 18, 2017 3:10:35 GMT -7
I used wood screws that were just a little bit thicker than the ones provided, then used a Dremmel tool to cut off the ends of the screws where they protruded from the back and grind them down so the back of the mount was smooth and would slide when needed. I used a french cleat, but similar idea to the one above.
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