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Post by MarkAnderson on Sept 24, 2015 9:12:58 GMT -7
It really depends on the type of climbing. I have no actual data, but from my subjective perception I would say that overhanging PE burns the most calories. A day at the Red spent onsighting 6-8 pitches near your limit will burn a ton of calories. I would guess on the order of 200-400 calories pure pump-fest (so you could be in the 2000-calorie range for a good hard day). I'm basing this on how hungry I feel after such a day, and on how easy it seems to be to keep weight off when doing this type of climbing. On the other hand, hangboarding seems to burn very few calories (based on the fact that I always seem to gain weight during a Strength Phase). I think Supplemental Exercises burn a fair amount of calories if done at high intensity with minimal rest (in other words, circuit-style SEs probably burns more calories), but the duration is relatively short. You could probably come up with a good estimate for SE expenditure from the interwebs. I would rank calorie costs thusly (low to high): Hangboarding <big gap> Limit Bouldering Campusing <big gap> ARCing SEs Indoor PE <big gap> Outdoor PE It's funny, I'll obsess over my diet during the end of my Strength Phase and through the Power Phase, struggling to lose ounces with very little help from the exercise end of the equation. Then when I start climbing outside the weight just flies off. For example, on Friday morning I weighed 146.6, I climbed Friday evening and Sunday morning, and on Monday morning I weighed 142.6 (goal weight = 142, and I'm now at 141.8). So maybe don't worry so much and just go climbing
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Post by joshvillen on Sept 24, 2015 9:54:50 GMT -7
I notice this happening a lot too. But it makes sense to me, climbing outside is just so different. You have the approach plus whatever it is you're carrying, the climbing itself, and the fact that you're not probably eating as much as you would on a typical day...I almost never feel like eating or drinking mid outdoor session
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Post by jessebruni on Sept 28, 2015 10:53:00 GMT -7
I think jessebruni is around 6ft also but "much much" less heavy than me and this is the part that makes me hesitating. What if my body composition would prevent me from losing much more weight? I have read about these "tanita" body composition scales but they are expensive... I'm actually 5'9" and I'm also not climbing 5.13+. You can generally add 5 lbs for every inch of height so that's 15lbs right there. My fighting weight is around 135, so add 15lbs and you get 150. Still 20 lbs less than your fighting weight which is significant. But then you have to factor in body types. I am naturally quite thin, I have chicken legs, and not much in the way of upper body muscle. I would imagine that if I built up the necessary muscle to climb 5.13+ regularly I'd probably be a few pounds heavier. Either way I wouldn't worry about the number too much. Focus on getting to the right weight for your body, the right body fat percentage, making sure your legs aren't bigger than they need to be. Don't worry about where other people are at.
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Post by slimshaky on Sept 28, 2015 13:04:30 GMT -7
my vote for heaviest calorie drain climbing style is long, slightly overhanging 9" cracks. not to mention, you usually upchuck that cowboy breakfast that you just had to have that morning. either way, you're a winner
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Post by Axel on Sept 29, 2015 20:35:34 GMT -7
Thanks jessebruni for your feedback! One friend of mine was using yesterday his calories watch sensor and after spending more than 3h at the gym he actually climbed one complete hour. That hour burnt 500 calories according to his watch. He is still a beginner climbing in 5.10 range and V3. In comparison, myfitnesspal is saying around 800 calories for 1h... I agree with you that 1h of power endurance training must be closer to 800 cal for me... For me this question of calories burnt was important for my ´scientific' understanding... It helps knowing how minimum I should eat also to recover for the effort made. I am now around 171lb after 3 weeks of measuring my calories intake. Not too bad so i will start to relax a bit on measuring everything...
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Post by majorsick on Oct 28, 2015 5:28:44 GMT -7
I'm currently in a weight los phase of my own and am also using MFP. Couting calories is the only thing that's ever worked for me, and I develop an obsession with the scale, which serves as fantastic motivation in my efforts. I'd highly recommend this approach for anyone.
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Post by Charlie S on May 1, 2016 15:20:45 GMT -7
After about 8 months of wearing a heart rate monitor and pulling data, here are some estimates for caloric burn: It'd be interesting to see where others fall on the scale. But climbing with an HR monitor is kind of a pain. Note: for trad and sport climbing, I try to remember to stop the watch/HR monitor between climbs. For gym climbing and workouts, I leave it running during rests.
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Post by MarkAnderson on May 1, 2016 17:52:11 GMT -7
Great data Charlie. I'm kinda surprised sport burns more calories than trad, since trad climbing requires hauling a lot more gear and often a lot more thrashing (like slim said).
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Post by Charlie S on May 1, 2016 18:35:23 GMT -7
Great data Charlie. I'm kinda surprised sport burns more calories than trad, since trad climbing requires hauling a lot more gear and often a lot more thrashing (like slim said). Thanks! So, the pace of sport climbing faster which is why I THINK it comes out to be more per hour. If you look at the average values, though, trad wins that battle. However, a few caveats: 1, I don't wear the HR monitor on thrashy climbs because it doesn't stay on. (On offwidth...we'll never know!) 2, On a trad day, I generally climb more easy routes than hard routes. Whereas on a sport day I'll tend to stay more difficult throughout the day. If I had worn the HRM on North Six Shooter's Lightning Bolt Cracks, we might have a slightly different story. (What a beast for a desert tower...) Conclusion: still more work to do! I need another Indian Creek trip.
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Post by MarkAnderson on May 1, 2016 20:35:14 GMT -7
Ok, that makes sense. So it could be that near-your-limit trad is more taxing, we just don't have that data. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Charlie S on Oct 16, 2016 12:44:09 GMT -7
I've been tracking my HRM data for about a year now. I present it to you in the following very informal file, with mostly plots and very few words: TrackingChartsUpdate.pdf (631.13 KB) Some anecdotal observations: Since dropping my lunch time 20 minute Stairmaster workout, it's been harder to stay trim. I have, however, increased my general cardio workouts for the sake of not feeling so exhausted at the base of long approach climbs (which seems to be every trad objective on my radar). In this regard I have been successful. Sport climbing burns "more" per hour than trad climbing, probably because I try harder on sport than I do trad. There is no correlation between cardio fitness and climbing performance (but we already knew this). I spend a lot of time and altitude hiking; this includes my approaches. Tracking calories burned per week keeps me honest.
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