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Post by Charlie S on Oct 16, 2016 15:36:05 GMT -7
So, Anderson brothers, after listening to your second TrainingBeta podcast, it got me thinking. I usually feel best and tend to climb my strongest about halfway through the Power phase. I find that during PE I'm just tanked, so much so that outdoor climbing suffers. It probably has something to do with a PE workout on Friday followed by climbing on Saturday, when really I should be resting. Anyway, an "up and coming" blog post was mentioned. In the meanwhile in the spirit of experimentation, I'm rearranging that whole later half of the training schedule for this next season. Thoughts?  |
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Post by erk on Oct 16, 2016 16:35:10 GMT -7
I've been experiencing a lot of difficulty while in the PE phase as well. I suspect its because my bouldering wasn't intense enough and my power would wane quickly.
The first thing that jumps out at me is that you're doing maintenance/NLP as soon as you're finished hangboarding. It seemed like Mike & Mark would still stick to a pure HB phase, a pure power phase and THEN more of a maintenance/PE/NLP phase. That's what I plan on playing around with this cycle.
The second thing is that this looks like a lot of climbing during your power phase. I've tried reducing rest from two days to one and I just don't get the most out of my workouts at that point.
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Post by Charlie S on Oct 16, 2016 17:46:31 GMT -7
I've been experiencing a lot of difficulty while in the PE phase as well. I suspect its because my bouldering wasn't intense enough and my power would wane quickly. Yeah, it seems like once I'm 1-2 weeks into the "rest" phase (which I do really poorly), I'm climbing better as opposed to the final week/immediate week after of PE. The first thing that jumps out at me is that you're doing maintenance/NLP as soon as you're finished hangboarding. It seemed like Mike & Mark would still stick to a pure HB phase, a pure power phase and THEN more of a maintenance/PE/NLP phase. That's what I plan on playing around with this cycle. So if you listen to their latest interview on TrainingBeta, they deviate from this a touch, hence the clarification. It may be a bit of jumping the shark since I imagine it'll end up on a blog post in the future. The second thing is that this looks like a lot of climbing during your power phase. I've tried reducing rest from two days to one and I just don't get the most out of my workouts at that point. You're probably right on this. |
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Post by MarkAnderson on Oct 17, 2016 12:20:55 GMT -7
. It seemed like Mike & Mark would still stick to a pure HB phase, a pure power phase and THEN more of a maintenance/PE/NLP phase. Not necessarily (anymore at least). |
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Post by MarkAnderson on Oct 17, 2016 12:26:53 GMT -7
In response to Charlie, 1. You climb too much. 2. What do you mean by "Max R"? Is that a Max R HB routine, Max Hangs, Campusing or something else? (if it's any of those things, see comment #1) I would recommend a lot more rest. I take 2 days off after a LB/Campus workout and I take 2 days rest after a PE workout. Lately I've been fond of doing all 3 things in the same workout (though a much reduced duration of the first two). I definitely rest 2 days after those workouts. Generally I think one PE workout per week, or one every 5 days is plenty. So I think you could get away with fewer PE workouts, and that might help work more rest into your schedule. You can also experiment with combining your power and PE days to get some more opportunities for rest. Some people respond better to shorter workouts, more frequently. I prefer longer workouts less frequently. It seems like the lesson here is that I should never tease anything because you all have no freakin patience  |
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Post by Charlie S on Oct 17, 2016 14:15:38 GMT -7
By Max R, I was using old nomenclature for either Campusing or Limit Bouldering. I'm not sure if I do better with shorter more frequent, or longer less frequent workouts. In the spirit of experimentation, time for the latter this next season...
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Post by jetjackson on Oct 19, 2016 7:30:57 GMT -7
It seems like the lesson here is that I should never tease anything because you all have no freakin patience Ha ha! Listened to the podcast yesterday - eagerly awaiting the blog update. Sounded like that podcast was pretty impromptu. The interview questions sounded a bit forced at times. Q from the podcast - as I recall, you were talking about using a 50 move LBC for PE, and being pumped out of your brain and not thinking you could do any of the moves, but then getting on and completing all 50. When I'm doing PE, and I'm that pumped, I'm more afraid of injury than anything. Afraid that I'll clutch for something and tear a pulley. Is there any fear of injury there for you when doing hard moves while completely pumped? |
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Post by MarkAnderson on Oct 19, 2016 19:34:45 GMT -7
I think doing it as a pair makes it a bit awkward. Especially since Mike was in CSprings and I was in Evergreen, so we could read body language to figure out who was going to answer which question.
As for your question, no, not really, but my circuit doesn';t have any moves that are tweaky for me. There is a mono, but its fist deep, and there's a 2 finger but I don't really have to crank off it. I'm more worried about jacking up my skin, but no matter how worked I feel that never seems to happen. There are only a handful of holds that are truly sharp, and I make a point not flail on those holds.
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