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Post by korduroy on Sept 20, 2016 8:08:43 GMT -7
Wondering if there are any surfers in this forum. And if so, how do you maintain your training cycle when its offshore and overhead?
I try and time my surf sessions (even if they are over 4+ hours) with OAE days or immediately after climbing training days, but obviously mother nature (especially on the East Coast) isn’t that systematic. What are your methods of keeping the stoke, while stoking the training fire?
What about long winter sessions with a 5 or 6mil wetsuit? Do you find your shoulders are wrecked for training?
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Post by Lundy on Sept 20, 2016 10:50:30 GMT -7
I just don't mix climbing and surfing is what it boils down to. I've decided that climbing is going to take priority, and when I'm in a training or performance cycle, I'm all climbing. When I have time between cycles, I do the best I can to get some surf in. It's not ideal, but with two kids and too much of a job, I couldn't really make both of them work all the time. Not to mention that it's a bit of a hike from DC to any decent swell, which makes the decision easier. If I could get an a.m. session in I'd probably rethink this a bit.
And yeah, back in the day I would occasionally hit some early a.m. winter surf in a 5 mil and then later go to the gym, and my shoulders would be completely useless...
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Post by korduroy on Sept 21, 2016 4:28:45 GMT -7
I just don't mix climbing and surfing is what it boils down to. I've decided that climbing is going to take priority, and when I'm in a training or performance cycle, I'm all climbing. When I have time between cycles, I do the best I can to get some surf in. It's not ideal, but with two kids and too much of a job, I couldn't really make both of them work all the time. Not to mention that it's a bit of a hike from DC to any decent swell, which makes the decision easier. I hear ya man. I am more in the camp of “the rock isn’t going anywhere, but the surf is limited.” So anytime the surf is good, I drop everything I can (if possible) and make the hour-plus drive to surf. Im sure itll only get harder when my lady and I have a little one, but for now, I enjoy making the treks. So far this first training cycle I haven’t noticed any negative impacts from doing both. I do find that although my shoulders are tired, they are tired in different areas than climbing. Some parts of paddling and the general act of surfing seems fairly antagonistic. |
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Post by alexandra on Sept 21, 2016 5:59:44 GMT -7
I am dedicated surfer, used to live at ocean beach (san francisco) and surfed every day for hours. At that time, I did not train for anything else, I didn't do crossfit and I only climbed at the gym in the afternoons some times. I was pretty exhausted to do much, due to both the rough ocean conditions and the cold water. As a result, I did not improve at climbing. Now I moved to the midwest where there is no surfing around so I train for climbing for a month or so at a time, then take a week or two off for a surf trip where I surf every day all day and repeat. I find this schedule does not interfere too much with my progress (though I don't know how much I could have improved if I didn't take those trips). In fact, I took about 2 months of summer off and when I came back, I regained my previous HB strength level within two weeks. Perhaps you can designate a week or so a month where surf is supposed to be the best (e.g. hurricane season) and plan your cycles to end when the season starts-or at least plan your strength and power cycles to start off season (east coast is not very consistent during summer and spring I think, right?)
(edit: one of the main issues I have found with surfing and climbing at the same time is that my skin gets confused and when I come back fro surf trips, the small crimps hurt like hell!)
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Post by korduroy on Sept 21, 2016 7:39:25 GMT -7
I am dedicated surfer, used to live at ocean beach (san francisco) and surfed every day for hours. In fact, I took about 2 months of summer off and when I came back, I regained my previous HB strength level within two weeks. Perhaps you can designate a week or so a month where surf is supposed to be the best (e.g. hurricane season) and plan your cycles to end when the season starts-or at least plan your strength and power cycles to start off season (east coast is not very consistent during summer and spring I think, right?) Ocean Beach, nice! That place can get super wild in big swell. I tend to do that currently, or at least most recently. I used my 2-week rest prior to starting to train by going on a trip. my GF and I went to G-Land in Indonesia for a 2-week surf trip. Timing it with hurricane season is tough though, as it is generally an unknown. this year our first major storm swell came in late august. Last year it was late September. and hurricane season typically lines up with prime climbing temps. But I don't mind making the climbing sacrifice. Winter surf here in New England is prime. Icy water keeps out the kooks and keeps the lineups relatively small. one of the main issues I have found with surfing and climbing at the same time is that my skin gets confused and when I come back fro surf trips, the small crimps hurt like hell!) I actually found that surfing (or just salt water) on my rest days has helped my skin recover from the rigors of this training program. I have barely had to use my sanding block or anything else on my skin. However, I do concur that the pain sometimes is ridiculously bad.[/quote] |
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Post by daustin on Sept 21, 2016 9:11:23 GMT -7
I don't surf, but I did just move to ocean beach (48th Ave, one away from Great Hwy!) and every day when I walk the dog I stop to watch surfers and tell myself that I'll learn... But if it interferes with climbing training, that's a good rationalization for me to stay on dry land!  |
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Post by alexandra on Sept 21, 2016 9:23:19 GMT -7
daustin, we should meet up! I go back to Ocean beach every month or every other month (I used to live at la playa and Judah, right on the beach-so pretty close to you-and I still have my surfboards etc in that apartment where I stay when in town). I surf most of the time I am there in the winter especially, but I take the occasional trip to Dogpatch boulders or lately Mortar rock in Berkeley in the pm or if the wind is onshore. I will be there October 6-16. let's go climb or I can teach you how to surf! (I have spare boards you can use there). Let me know if you want to meet up, it would be cool to hang out with ppl from the forum! (pm me and I can send you my fb/email/insert your favorite social media contact)
In fact, my boyfriend who is a climber and doesn't surf will be with me October 6-10, so I am guessing a climbing trip will happen during that weekend (after a morning surf for me of course.)
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Post by alexandra on Sept 21, 2016 9:24:45 GMT -7
I am dedicated surfer, used to live at ocean beach (san francisco) and surfed every day for hours. In fact, I took about 2 months of summer off and when I came back, I regained my previous HB strength level within two weeks. Perhaps you can designate a week or so a month where surf is supposed to be the best (e.g. hurricane season) and plan your cycles to end when the season starts-or at least plan your strength and power cycles to start off season (east coast is not very consistent during summer and spring I think, right?) Ocean Beach, nice! That place can get super wild in big swell. I tend to do that currently, or at least most recently. I used my 2-week rest prior to starting to train by going on a trip. my GF and I went to G-Land in Indonesia for a 2-week surf trip. I love G-land!! I was there a few summers ago. I was in the mentawans this August in fact at Macaronis  Yes, OB gets big but thats why we like her [/quote] |
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Post by daustin on Sept 21, 2016 9:57:06 GMT -7
daustin, we should meet up! I go back to Ocean beach every month or every other month (I used to live at la playa and Judah, right on the beach-so pretty close to you-and I still have my surfboards etc in that apartment where I stay when in town). I surf most of the time I am there in the winter especially, but I take the occasional trip to Dogpatch boulders or lately Mortar rock in Berkeley in the pm or if the wind is onshore. I will be there October 6-16. let's go climb or I can teach you how to surf! (I have spare boards you can use there). Let me know if you want to meet up, it would be cool to hang out with ppl from the forum! (pm me and I can send you my fb/email/insert your favorite social media contact) In fact, my boyfriend who is a climber and doesn't surf will be with me October 6-10, so I am guessing a climbing trip will happen during that weekend (after a morning surf for me of course.) Cool! I'm actually going to be out of the country those dates in October, but let me know next time and maybe we can find a time to climb! |
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Post by jetjackson on Sept 21, 2016 12:03:09 GMT -7
I don't surf, despite being an Aussie. I feel the need to tell you about this place though, called Mount Coolum in Aussie. See the picture below - Awesome overhung basalt column climbing, a mile from the perfect surfing beach.   |
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Post by alexandra on Sept 21, 2016 12:12:56 GMT -7
what beach is that???
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Post by jetjackson on Sept 21, 2016 12:19:09 GMT -7
It's not really a specific beach. Most of the east coast Aussie coastline that is exposed to the pacific (eg. no islands in the way), pretty much looks like that. I guess you could call it Marcoola Beach. The beach looks like this for the most part, and probably stretches along for miles in that particular section. Edit: I checked, it's about 6 miles of beach at that particular section. Suffice to say, you can easily find empty waves to surf - no territorial disputes like I hear there are on the US east coast.  |
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Post by alexandra on Sept 21, 2016 15:55:22 GMT -7
looks small and onshore ;p
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Post by jetjackson on Sept 21, 2016 20:30:58 GMT -7
Surf always looks small when you're onshore. When you're standing in it waist deep looking up, it's a different matter.
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Post by korduroy on Sept 23, 2016 7:29:19 GMT -7
Ocean Beach, nice! That place can get super wild in big swell. I tend to do that currently, or at least most recently. I used my 2-week rest prior to starting to train by going on a trip. my GF and I went to G-Land in Indonesia for a 2-week surf trip. I love G-land!! I was there a few summers ago. I was in the mentawans this August in fact at Macaronis Yes, OB gets big but thats why we like her
Awesome! We were thinking of doing the Mentawi as our next trip. Would you suggest Macaronis to stay?
Also JetJackson, those basalt columns look absolutely amazing! I love climbing basalt, its what I grew up on. strange geometric shapes and complex techniques. love it
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Yes, OB gets big but thats why we like her 